More dangerous for the people in the car.
I think a closer analogy, would be for someone to leave a child in a car with the engine running and the transmission in drive.
Fearsome Pirate writes:
I feel the same way about people who recklessly and carelessly drive their cars. Those sorts are a far greater danger to me on a far more regular basis.
Ken: Yeah, that makes sense. Sounds like no one is going to end up accidentally shooting themselves or someone else with your handguns. My beef is with people so fearful or careless that rather than making themselves safer they are actually a danger to themselves and others.
I’m still interested in the pigs. I’ve read about places down south they are as numerous as rabbits and they cause a lot of destruction. Some farmers just shoot them and leave them in the ditch.
Ken B writes:
Bill – there is no safety on a revolver. My Ruger has the transfer safety bar, which means I can keep all six chambers loaded. If I accidently drop the weapon, the transfer safety bar keeps the hammer and firing pin from striking the cartridge.
I have an older 38 special that does not have a safety bar. If I carry it into the woods, I keep the chamber beneath the hammer empty. A tap on the hammer could accidently fire a shell in the chamber.
I don’t hunt the wild hogs. We see them infrequently, but I don’t want to walk up a sow and her piglets unarmed.
If I don’t anticipate crossing or walking public roads, I might carry my 9mm carbine instead of a revolver.
Ken: It isn’t the loaded part that makes me wonder. It doesn’t make sense to carry around an unloaded pistol. When I hunt I obviously carry a loaded gun. But I don’t hunt with the safety off. If someone practices with whatever gun they use, then flipping the safety off is as natural as shouldering the gun and firing. In fact, I usually rack another shell without realizing it.
Do you hunt the wild hogs? I’d love to do that sometime. A little extra pork is always welcome.
Ken B writes:
Bill: I only carry while on my own property (approx. 60 acres) because of wild hogs and wild dogs. My 357 magnum revolver is a Ruger GP100, which has the transfer SAFETY bar. So yes, I carry it fully loaded. The weapon, not me. LOL.
FTR, remember, I live in rural (cue banjo music) Arkansas. Seeing someone carrying a gun in my neck of the woods is fairly normal, and generally raises no alarms/
Fearsome Pirate writes:
Granted, but I’m not actually keen on shooting someone. I said deterrent. A shotgun is more intimidating than a handgun.
It’s unlikely that the type of gun is ultimately what decides whether a home invader attacks you or not.
The recoil is trivial and unless I inexplicably find myself in a shootout, one shot at close range will be sufficient.
Unless you hit vitals, your attacker may keep coming at you, hence the need for more than one round. That’s why many of those police shootings that people get so worked up about involve the attacker being shot multiple times. Also, it’s easier to grab a shotgun barrel than a handgun barrel, and it’s easier to to do things like turn on lights, call the police, open doors, or hold a flashlight when your gun doesn’t require two hands.
Jason Blair writes:
I read an article in Businessweek that said there are tens of thousands of incidents per year where guns are used by civilians in self defense. That’s pretty compelling. I don’t know where they got their statistics but I don’t have reason to doubt them. And as FP points out, there are relatively few accidental gun deaths for the number of people who own guns. This is my point: sometimes you can be so fearful of danger that you become a danger. And as Jeremiah points out, no one thinks they fall into that category.
Handguns are lighter and easier to manipulate in tight spaces, like hallways. They also hold more rounds and recoil less.
Granted, but I’m not actually keen on shooting someone. I said deterrent. A shotgun is more intimidating than a handgun. The recoil is trivial and unless I inexplicably find myself in a shootout, one shot at close range will be sufficient. The recoil thing is debatable anyway, depends on the gun.